1 ÷ .618 = .618 + 1

2015.06.01 14:37
The Golden Ratio: Relevant or not?

...the width of archinect forum's body text and the width of the right side bar are very close to the golden ration. I've used the golden ratio in many projects over the last 32 years. Many artworks are of a ratio of 1:1.618 and the first couple years of Quondam's web pages all followed the golden ratio, just like the body text and side bar of archinect/forum now. I guess that's why I can easily eye-ball it.
The closer-in columns of the temple front are thus positioned to diminish the light coming through the two columns at both ends. If the end columns were spaced like the others, the end columns would look further apart than the norm due to the light coming through. The adjustment is made to make the column spacing look even when viewed from standing in front of the (complete) temple. At least that's the explanation I remember.

2015.06.01 14:53
The Golden Ratio: Relevant or not?
a : b :: b : a+b

2015.06.01 15:08
The Golden Ratio: Relevant or not?
1 ÷ .618 = 1.618
233 ÷ 144 = 1.618

2015.06.01 15:17
The Golden Ratio: Relevant or not?
1 ÷ .618 = 1.618 = .618 + 1
They call it the golden ratio, but I think it might just be the basic mathematics of a Black Hole (and the position of the navel to the overall height).

2015.06.01 16:05
The Golden Ratio: Relevant or not?
architect IQ test
true or false
1 ÷ .618 = .618 + 1
multiple choice
1.618 = x, where x is:
a. 1 ÷ .618
b. 1 + .618
c. all of the above
d. none of the above

2015.06.01 16:08
The Golden Ratio: Relevant or not?
What are some examples of the bunk and the fanciful?
Looks to me like the image at the top of this thread is bunk.

2015.06.01 16:43
The Golden Ratio: Relevant or not?
Personally, I don't worry about what relevance the golden ratio has in design. I enjoy the applicability it has in design. Whenever a whole is divided into two parts and one part is subordinate to the other, it's often fruitful to see if the golden ratio resolves the ratio of the two parts to one another.

2015.06.01 17:43
The Golden Ratio: Relevant or not?
Generally, it is not good practice to derive/apply ratios from/to photographs. What you want is accurate measurements (to produce accurate drawings) and then investigate the ratios of the varying parts.

2015.06.01 17:45
The Golden Ratio: Relevant or not?
"All reality is a wave-length."

2015.06.01 21:22
Why do Americans love this style of architecture so much?
Look at the work of Charles Moore from the late 1970s through the 1980s; that's the real precedent for this "style". It's all really a side-effect of Charles Moore's post-modern style. It was/is extremely easy for commercial architects to copy, and it fell in perfectly with then-newly popular building products like Dry-Vit/EIFS. The late 1970s-1980s designs of Michael Graves were also a strong influence. Perhaps call it the Post-Modern Side-Effect Style. Venturi usually gets blamed for this stuff, but really, look at the work of Charles Moore because that's where you'll see near identical detailing.

2015.06.01 21:34
Why do Americans love this style of architecture so much?
In many ways, you can describe Charles Moore's post-modern style as neo-vernacular craft.

2015.06.01 21:55
Why do Americans love this style of architecture so much?
neo-vernacular craft in style
I live in a developer built house from 1975. It's all an easily repeated kit of parts with very little craft involved at all. Craft in construction since the mid-1970s is more a rare occurrence than the norm.

2015.06.08 10:13
Top architects defend some of the most hated buildings in the world
Adding to davvid's exposition of the "public sensibility" in the United States...
"The exact numbers vary on the percentage of buildings in this country that are designed by architects, but the most optimistic figure barely makes it into the double digits; this is a number, moreover, that has been in slow decline for decades. And of those buildings, the percentage that makes a difference in advancing architecture as an art, as a science, or as a contribution to the social good, is even smaller."
--Bergdoll, 2009
Seems to me that architects (and their education) deserve only a very small percentage of the blame of how it all looks like out there.

2015.06.08 10:50
New photos of E. Fay Jones' Thorncrown Chapel unveiled to mark 35th anniversary
I wish I could find that Scott Brown quote from a year or two ago where she says Venturi is no longer interested in architecture. Perhaps it was only me, but the way it was phrased conjured up scenes from Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?.
Coincidentally, James Stirling died 25 June 1992.

2015.06.08 11:58
New photos of E. Fay Jones' Thorncrown Chapel unveiled to mark 35th anniversary
I found the quotation:
Q: As a result of that story, a group of women graduate students at Harvard launched a petition asking that the Pritzker committee recognize your work. What is Mr. Venturi’s opinion of all this? Didn’t he recently sign the petition?
A: He signed the petition, yes. Read what he wrote. Bob believes—how does he put it: “Excuse nothing. Explain nothing.” So he wanted to put something that represents his feelings and didn’t excuse and explain. I think he did something very cool and very nice. It’s also hard for him. It’s hard on many levels. By the way, they said he is unwell. He isn’t unwell, he is just old. He doesn’t really want to be involved in architecture very much—or in this quarrel.

2015.06.08 13:20
New photos of E. Fay Jones' Thorncrown Chapel unveiled to mark 35th anniversary
A week or two ago, I saw some images of Wright's Imperial Hotel (Tokyo, 1915-22) and then seriously started to wonder whether this Wright design was a bit of a touchstone for VSBA's Hotel Mielparque Resort Complex (Nikko, Kirifuri, Japan, 1992-97). A view of the Imperial Hotel's Peacock Room Banquet Hall is particularly evocative of the 'decorativeness' at Hotel Mielparque. I was once told that Venturi is/was very private as to the 'inspirations' behind any given project, so one is then more or less left guessing, thus I don't find it hard to imagine Venturi looking at an(other) earlier leading American architect's hotel architecture in Japan as he himself was about venture into designing a very similar type of project.
Implanting oneself into a 'tradition' or "when an American designing a hotel in Japan, do what Wright would do."
Just a minute ago read this in Stanislaus von Moos, Venturi Scott Brown & Associates 1986-1998: "The colored rendering of the [Hotel Mielparque] spa building, first of all, recall Frank Lloyd Wright."

2015.06.08 15:22
Top architects defend some of the most hated buildings in the world
...there already is stylistic plurality and theoretical pluralism, but that's never really been your complaint. You want everyone to see current architectural education as a modernist monopoly that engenders a world without beauty that is forced upon the public. Given that only a very small percentage of the (US) built environment is due to architects, it's hard to see how your supposed monopoly of modernist ugliness actually even exists, and thus it's even harder to imagine a more beautiful world coming into existence if only architect's were untaught Modernism and in turn taught how to make beautiful things.

2015.06.08 18:26
Op-Ed: Beyond Stars, Icons and Much More, by Patrik Schumacher
"Still, all our projects fall short in relation to my theoretical agenda and relative to the speculative design research projects pursued by the AA DRL, or other teaching arenas like Harvard, Yale, and Vienna. (All these academic projects also fall short)."
That's about all that I found interesting. Patrik, do you ever explain or take time to investigate how/why the projects fall short? It seems there's actually something to learn from that gap between the theory and the practice (so to speak).

2015.06.09 10:03
Op-Ed: Beyond Stars, Icons and Much More, by Patrik Schumacher
The (looming in the background) notion of "the research phase of design as being the generator of design" is partially why I asked Patrik my first question. Patrik says the design and research projects all fall short of his theoretical agenda. It seems then, to me at least, that an investigation of that fall short gap would teach us something about the +/- aspects of the theory, research and designs.

2015.06.09 15:12
Renderings of BIG-Designed Two World Trade Center Revealed




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