what a f...ing imposition!

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2006.04.01 17:12
Why does much 'avant-garde' design these days look straight out of the Sixties?
A couple of years ago I specifically looked through the Progressive Architecture design awards from the late 1960s. I wanted to see what Gordon Matta-Clark probably saw himself when he was (still) in architecture school at Cornell. I was very much surprised because a lot of the top prizes were buildings that are now "in history", but not all of them. I'm not sure how this relates to the topic here, but what I saw wasn't exactly what I expected. I guess I'm trying to say that history gets more interesting when it's contextually specific. Is radical retro an option? Extreme Makeover Retro?

2006.04.01 16:26
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Wishful Thinking might be a better title.

2006.04.01 16:22
the best song you ever heard LIVE
I came out of the men's room and saw that Bronski Beat was hanging out in the otherwise empty "Grotto Bar" at Kurt's disco. I joined them, hung out for a while, mentioned a song they hadn't performed in the show earlier, so they sang me a few bars. 1990.

2006.04.01 15:21
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You mean he threw out those back issues of Dwell?

2006.04.01 15:16
the best song you ever heard LIVE
She's Gone, Daryl Hall and John Oates, Ambler Theater, 1973.
[I forget the title], Bruce Springstein and the E Street Band, Tower Theater, 1974.
[I forget the title], Dan Fogelberg, Tower Theater, 1976.
Hotel California, Eagles, Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO, 1978. (Even heard Dan Fogelberg sing the song again earlier at this concert.)

2006.04.01 14:24
Why does much 'avant-garde' design these days look straight out of the Sixties?
Gotcha. Which Easterling book?
In reading your first post here, I was reminded of being in a local 1960s Roman Catholic church for the first time a few years ago. I was actually quite surprised by it's "radical-ness". I mean, it was the first time I've ever seen a completely black altar in my life. There was indeed something radical about a lot of 60s and 70s architecture. (You'll see that most of Quondam's collecton of unexecuted designs come from 1964-1977.)
Regarding my work involving Piranesi's Ichnographia (starting 1987), it was done completely independent of Eisenman; Back in the early 1990s I was aware of Tafuri and Bloomer's work, and that's when I started to find thier mistakes. Then, by the end of the 1990s till now, you have Eisenman touting himself as the great understander of the Piranesi's Ichnographia, and, quite frankly, it makes me sick to see such a fraud.

2006.04.01 13:35
Dwell Magazine: A Slow Commercialised Descent? Has it stoped being a "Nice Modernist?"
Face the facts, all magazines (as opposed to journals) are advertising mediums, and content is pretty much secondary.

2006.04.01 12:56
Dwell Magazine: A Slow Commercialised Descent? Has it stopped being a "Nice Modernist?"
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2006.04.01 12:40
Why does much 'avant-garde' design these days look straight out of the Sixties?
I don't agree with "but doesn’t it seem like there is a whole cottage industry in architecture that has grown up around proving those guys wrong and it just ends up feeding into their whole thing?" The "industry" I see is the one constantly trying to "proving those guys right" while ignoring anything contrary, Moreover, I presented a very specific case of current radicalism in architecture that now even you seem to rather not recognize as important work already done.

2006.04.01 12:10
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This thread is about posting images or writing about scantily clad gals or guys... [I still have to dig up that architect underware ad from a few years ago.]
...about "old farts" ["prehistoric"] complaining too much about this forum lately...
...about your favorite "versus" thread.

Booby Prizes welcome.

2006.04.01 11:40
Dwell Magazine: A Slow Commercialised Descent? Has it stoped being a "Nice Modernist?"
I never wasted any time even looking at Dwell.
Of course I'm a snob.

2006.04.01 11:30
Why does much 'avant-garde' design these days look straight out of the Sixties?
What's wrong with Reenactionary Architecturism? Nothing as far as I'm concerned.
I like the question, "What would radical be exactly?" because it's kind of indicative of how rare radicalism in architecture really is, but I will provide an example, nonetheless: discovering that Piranesi's Ichnographia of Il Campo Marzio exists in two versions and proving that what Tafuri, Bloomer, Allen and Eisenman write and say about Piranesi's Ichnographia is utter bullshit.
2.Departing markedly from the usual or customary; extreme: radical opinions on education.
3. Favoring or effecting fundamental or revolutionary changes in current practices, conditions, or institutions




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